Ikariam US

Sticking it out a little far their, aren't you?

This is starting to look like Alpha War 1

who's the allied and axis players in all of this

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Originally posted by Drake24

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Originally posted by Kaeros
Higher Bridges, good guys.

Good guys? Well I guess if your talking from your point of view. From the eyes of a netural person, AHI and FURY would seem the bad guys. What for? Well unless I am missing something, two guys from MCS attack. The attack wasn't sent out by the MCS and the MCS even (on this forum) asked to talk out the issue. The AHI and FURY refused to talk. They want war. The lust for war is what this really comes down to. There is no solid evidence (unless I'm missing something) that the MCS has done anything. Just two or so members out of 60+, from your view point, acting on their own. And yet war has been declared on the whole alliance. So who really is the aggressor? The answer would be the AHI and FURY.

Now, if you guys are just bored and want to fight, then I can understand that. The game does have it's dull moments. If that's what this is about, then call it like it is and don't try to sugar coat it and let's just have some fun with this Alpha war. If it's a matter of, you guys thinking you actually have a legit complaint against the entire alliance, then can you at least make it clear. I'm obviously missing something here.

Read in the declaration of war thread which players we declared war on in MCS. It is not the entire alliance.

At first we were targetting only those players. But since MCS and AHI had peace treaty and they can't cancel it they get a clear list of players attacking their alliance because of the breach of peace treaty. Which expanded the list of hostile players.

Wars start small and escalate as events happen. We may have initiated the war by showing hostility to some of your members but the war has been heaviliy escalated by MCS members. Which I don't blame them, they should defend their fellow alliance members.

Let's not forget that this all started because we believe MCS sent a spy to join AHI alliance. All i did was ignite the fuel that was dumped into this situation from the previous warning to MCS thread.

Leroy_jenkins of SoAP has launched an attack against HBR supporting MCS...

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Originally posted by Kaeros
Geologist, you stated you would stand with MCS against AHI. Position noted.

Thank you for having an sig block which proved my point in the first place.

/fondly remembers the Xenos sig block change incident
//Another game, kiddies, another game

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Originally posted by gauntlet
Let's not forget that this all started because we believe MCS sent a spy to join AHI alliance. All i did was ignite the fuel that was dumped into this situation from the previous warning to MCS thread.

This didn't all start because someone blew the whistle on you guys, but rather because of the discussions your alliance was having about attacking us.

Use some brainpower here please - do you honestly think that if we had the audacity to have one of our players disband from our alliance, go through the process of applying and then join your alliance, that they would have wasted all that effort by blowing their cover on the forums?

I would hope that if we ever had a "spy" that they would simply report directly to someone via private messages. Any spy who was stupid enough to post a public message about their findings would be fired and shot dead on the spot. It's clear to me that whoever posted that message was simply disgruntled with your warmongering plans.

And let's be fair, all you did wasn't just "add fuel", you DECLARED WAR. There's a slight difference.

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Originally posted by Drake24

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Originally posted by gauntlet

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Originally posted by Drake24

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Originally posted by Kaeros
Higher Bridges, good guys.

Good guys? Well I guess if your talking from your point of view. From the eyes of a netural person, AHI and FURY would seem the bad guys. What for? Well unless I am missing something, two guys from MCS attack. The attack wasn't sent out by the MCS and the MCS even (on this forum) asked to talk out the issue. The AHI and FURY refused to talk. They want war. The lust for war is what this really comes down to. There is no solid evidence (unless I'm missing something) that the MCS has done anything. Just two or so members out of 60+, from your view point, acting on their own. And yet war has been declared on the whole alliance. So who really is the aggressor? The answer would be the AHI and FURY.

Now, if you guys are just bored and want to fight, then I can understand that. The game does have it's dull moments. If that's what this is about, then call it like it is and don't try to sugar coat it and let's just have some fun with this Alpha war. If it's a matter of, you guys thinking you actually have a legit complaint against the entire alliance, then can you at least make it clear. I'm obviously missing something here.

Read in the declaration of war thread which players we declared war on in MCS. It is not the entire alliance.

At first we were targetting only those players. But since MCS and AHI had peace treaty and they can't cancel it they get a clear list of players attacking their alliance because of the breach of peace treaty. Which expanded the list of hostile players.

Wars start small and escalate as events happen. We may have initiated the war by showing hostility to some of your members but the war has been heaviliy escalated by MCS members. Which I don't blame them, they should defend their fellow alliance members.

Let's not forget that this all started because we believe MCS sent a spy to join AHI alliance. All i did was ignite the fuel that was dumped into this situation from the previous warning to MCS thread.

Your last paragraph you make note that this all started because of a "belief" that a spy was sent from us. You don't attempt to contact us, without any diplomacy, to say the least, you go to war. If that's how you like to settle things, then have it your way, but this whole war could have been avoided if you or the AHI had actually wanted to. Which tells me this isn't about an issue, just about war in general.

For what it's worth, I know nothing about spying on AHI and don't see what good that would have done. We had no contact with them prior to this event, to my knowledge, so why we would even bother spying, I don't know.

I can understand, I guess, your part in the war. You feel the need to hunt down old RAD members, okay. This would also explain why you didn't feel the need to contact us and just declared the war. This doesn't excuse the AHI though. And either way, it would seem the need for war is more so what your after than some actual "greater good."

It's a waste of my time and yours to argue and analize every aspect and scenario. I will take the blame for resorting to action first before taking the diplomacy route and be tagged as a 'carebear'.

We don't need a war, nor resources, we play for respect. There is nothing wrong with attacking nor defending. If you want others to respect your strategies, gameplay, etc just attack or defend to the best of your abilities. That's how you get respect. Not by sitting on your keyboard making post, post, post, you tab into the game after making 100 posts see someone is attacking you and sending not only ALL your resources somewhere else but also your entire army to another city.

I already lost a lot of respect sending an equal sized army to attack an MCS member and have his army not even there. What are you playing for? To have all your buildings to level 99?

I see you guys number 1 but i have more respect for an alliance like Fluffy bunnies before i respect an alliance that can mash their accept application button on their diplomacy page.

So please do me a favor, take part in a war earn some respect and then we'll come to terms.

(This post is not just to you it's to the whole Ikariam community)

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