Suggestions for AP Improvement

Atomic Dog

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 8:18pm

Suggestions for AP Improvement

Alright, I really don't like the idea of Action Points to begin with. But...if the devs are going to be insistent on using them...then here are a few suggestions to keep the game balanced.

1) Reduce building times. With building times in the excess of 12+ hours at high lvl upgrades...keeping an AP point tied up for this entire time seems a bit ridiculous and slows the game down more than it already is.

EDIT: Number 1 doesn't apply...my mistake.

2) Reduce travel times. For the same reasons listed above.

3) Keep trade and transport immune from using AP's...this is going to destroy the market.

4) Consider doubling the AP's granted for every 5 lvls of upgrade. Better yet, consider granting an AP for EVERY level of upgrade.

That's all I got right now. I'm sure there are a ton of disgruntled players out there who wish to constructively add more to this.

(please...no excessive complaining...let's just brainstorm for ways to implement this in a manner that doesn't unbalance the game).

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Atomic Dog" (Mar 31st 2008, 8:32pm)

Legadian

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 8:26pm

RE: Suggestions for AP Improvement

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Originally posted by Atomic Dog
1) Reduce building times. With building times in the excess of 12+ hours at high lvl upgrades...keeping an AP point tied up for this entire time seems a bit ridiculous and slows the game down more than it already is.

To my knowledge, constructing or expanding a building does not consume an action point.

Atomic Dog

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 8:31pm

RE: Suggestions for AP Improvement

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Originally posted by Legadian

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Originally posted by Atomic Dog
1) Reduce building times. With building times in the excess of 12+ hours at high lvl upgrades...keeping an AP point tied up for this entire time seems a bit ridiculous and slows the game down more than it already is.

To my knowledge, constructing or expanding a building does not consume an action point.

My bad...you're right. I had confused my cargo ship I had sent out with my building construction.

Scratch number 1!

KillDaddy

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 8:42pm

I agree. 1 action point per Town Hall upgrade seems like a better course.

Another thing I'd like to see tweaked is the governor's residence. It's going to cost a fortune to be able to keep the upgrades of the residences up with expansion. Why can't it be just a level 1 to suffice at each colony and then to switch it to a palace to change capitals it costs the normal upgrade fee?

Brantith

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 9:00pm

Action point vs occasonal player

As I see It ap's cause another inbalance in the game as you need to monitor your time more often and for the ppl that play just before work, then after, then maybe before bed. I see them really cheated where before 3x a day 1 could do alot.
Another that upsets me is the fact, my friend who talked me into playing this game is 41 tiles away " we do have colonies closer now,but even that becomes a pain as to ship to her or my colonies now take an AP for 12 to 24 hours. If I knew about AP's I would have kept my colonies closer, but as they are implemented after, upset the sceam or things.
My suggestion is either give us more points. or points per hour in addition,
or just plain scrape them.
As my friend pointed out iv got 29 cargo boats, and with new action point im lucky to use 12. AP's have change the gaming formula drastically.
I would even perfer a new server with no AP's I'd move their 9in a heart beat.
Next time a change like this should be applied to a new server, not change the starting to new.
Hoping to help a beta test
Lord Brantith

Nero Ikarius

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 10:54pm

I agree especailly the last suggestion to increase the amount of AP's you get.

I think 1 AP's per town hall level would be ok.

Weezbo

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Monday, March 31st 2008, 11:07pm

RE: Action point vs occasonal player

I am throughly hating the idea of trade vessels having to be limited by AP it trashes the entire concept of individual developement.. i am looking for some of the other people playing to lay that out straight as it does not help the game whatsoever..

this new cluster with the goveners office or whatever is just that a further cluster..of no value whatsoever to individualized Master Builders ...

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ednos

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 2:40am

Increasing the number of APs would be good, but I'd rather they just not apply to fleets. I can't afford to limit myself to a single digit of transport missions at once when I've got trading to do! This literally kills all of my activity in the game.

Hadrean

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 2:45am

AP's should be more like your embassies, 2 points for the initial town hall, and one for every next upgrade.

Myscio

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 2:50am

Actually 1 point per town hall 2-3 level would be an easire idea. Yes 1:1 is tempting but camon the warmongers with their level 13 town halls would have feild days every day it would not balance it at all. they would be able to attack 13 times leave and get a swandwitch and by the time they get done eating that they have 2-5 points again. Not good!

Hadrean

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 3:28am

or maybe 1 AP for every other town hall level. i mean, for the next several days, everyone will be scramblin to build those GRs.

Deathblade1065

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 4:17am

This kills the amount of trading that is going to be done. I feel that it also makes the game more complicated than it needs to be. If you were the ruler of an empire, you wouldn't have to think about how many "action points" you had, you would just do what you wanted when you wanted.

Helikaon

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 4:24am

If there was to be an increase in APs per town level, you'd have even more trouble as newer cities would have difficulty trading right off the bat.

I'd rather see an increase in action points for every third town hall level. Make us think out our actions carefully.

Cretoneous

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 4:49am

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Action points REALLY hampers trade vessels. I do not think this is an improvement.

ToyPoodle

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 4:56am

Right when i looked at my town hall a moment ago i thought omg what is all of this. I havent tried using the AP yet but as it sounds i do not like it. I send a lot of cargo ship out at once and for it to be limited now is going to drive me crazy. I am just going to have to wait even longer to be able to do anything on top of the long wait I already have for the travel distances.

Also, CORRUPTION OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's hard enough getting the resources but now my citizens think they can run my towns and take advantage of them. I think not. I am God after all (or at least of my towns)

confused

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 4:26pm

The AP seems unfair to the older players,every 5 town hall upgrades get 1 extra AP. So we start with 3 well my town hall is 10....If someone started an account today they would be able to have 2 mor AP than me at level 10. NOT FAIR!

I play alot of AP games,and people always complain...however in this case this game has great potential and is a large game already 3 AP is just not enough...maybe it can regenerate over a time period instead of upgrades and be raised somehow.

thanks.

Paspower

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 7:23pm

Simple fix. For no more action points.

This is really simple to fix and get the game balance back in the game. Just increase the storage in the warehouse for low level players and make it hard to protect your warehouse at higher level. Even a low level player could attack a higher level player. Even a small alliance of low player could make it hard for the higher level players. The low players are more like bandits until they build up the forces. That is the balance.

Simple fix. No more action points

Paspower

MoreBeer

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Tuesday, April 1st 2008, 10:55pm

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Originally posted by confused
The AP seems unfair to the older players,every 5 town hall upgrades get 1 extra AP. So we start with 3 well my town hall is 10....If someone started an account today they would be able to have 2 mor AP than me at level 10. NOT FAIR!

I play alot of AP games,and people always complain...however in this case this game has great potential and is a large game already 3 AP is just not enough...maybe it can regenerate over a time period instead of upgrades and be raised somehow.

thanks.

I think you have no idea how APs work.
Older players like yourself have 3 APs in every town. 1 base, +2 for a level 10 town hall. New players do NOT have 2 more AP. I have no idea where you get this idea from.

APs come back immediately when you're done with them. It's not you get 1 action per day, it's one simultaneous action per AP. Finish an action, your AP's unspent. There is no need for it to "regenerate over a time period".

Give a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life.

ednos

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Wednesday, April 2nd 2008, 5:42pm

He's saying the town hall levels didn't propagate to increased AP in the upgrade. That's really irrelevant. Any fewer than 10 action points per colony absolutely cripples me. Unless we're getting one per town hall level, I can't support any sort of AP system.

TimberWolf

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Thursday, April 3rd 2008, 12:26am

Lets have it so you start with 2 APs, and with every 2 levels of townhall you get an extra AP.
That would be much better, because i have to make regular transfers of resources between my cities...

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